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but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have good street cred for your audience. frankly, i thought mitt romney did the best job of advancing even a modicom of viewpoints and stepping up on a national stage than like when al gore invented the internet. mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the past couple of weeks. i think frankly liberals ought to ask them that question. does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to suppo
and the next debate. martha: thank you for being with us today. bill: president obama telling the american people there is one pledge he will always keep. >> four years ago i said i'm not a perfect man and i'm no won't be a perfect president. that's probably a promise governor romney thinks i have kept. you i promised i would fight every single day for the american people and the middle class. i kept that promise. if you will vote for me, then i promise i will fight just as hard in a second term. bill: this won't be long. but give me four minutes. the romney campaign says he was a clear winner on substance. >> mitt romney may have scored some style point during this theatrical debate performance but he failed on the facts and his credibility didn't pass the bar the american people are looking for. as we shuffled through the debate transcript and look at what he had to say, i think what the american people are left with are doubling down on fast-rising medicare, his magic math using a magic calculator to pay for his tax plan. he says he will fight for education but he wants to cut the educa
was telling to me. at no point did president obama lay out a case for what a second term is going to look like. i heard president obama say he was going to do one thing in his second term. he's going to raise some taxes in the second term that he didn't get around to raising in the first term. that's not much of an uplifting vision to the american people. ronald reagan used to say around great compliewn kayer to when you have great things to communicate. barack obama did not have great things to communicate and that's why he struggled by all accounts. martha: there is no doubt in my mind the president and his camp will spend the next couple weeks spending a lot more time getting prepared and being ready. i don't think anybody will count out president obama in terms of how he will perform in the next debate. what are the romney folks going to do to get ready for the next round? >> this wasn't just about performance. the obama folks think it's style and performs and and looking down instead of looking up. last night was about substance. looked at president obama and said you paid for obama-care
to the next debate. no matter what happens i can tell you what the headline is. rejuvenated obama stays his ground and wins. stuart: absolutely right. i look forward to it. i look forward to seeing that you are dead right yet again. what a pleasure. thanks for joining us. here is another question following last night's debate. is this a turning point in the entire election? dan henninger error says yes. at long last we do have a presidential race. dan henninger rejoins the company later this hour and will romney keep the momentum up? at 10:37. here is what you are saying about the debate on our facebook page. if you thought president obama won. we didn't get any like that. here's what we got. jean said last night was a game changer. fence sitters no longer on the fence. romney may have won the battle but the work remains. he has to keep momenm and have plans in place ready to go. keep your comments coming. interesting debate on facebook. here is why you may be calling this a turning point. romney pulled no punches. it was forceful listen to how he addressed the president's energy policies.
, what does the president have to do here tonight? >> reporter: well, scott, obama campaign officials tell me the president is not coming into this debate looking for a slug- fest with governor romney. that he wants to have a substantive conversation. they think that benefits him. they say he looks at this debate sort of the same way he looked at his convention speech a few weeks ago as a way to reach a much larger audience of americans who are going to be tuning in and want to hear more about his plan specifically when it comes to the middle-class. so because so much of tonight's debate is going to be about the economy, they say we can expect a very frank assessment from him about where the economy was when he took office and what he's done to improve it. >> pelley: nancy, you mentioned the large audience. it's estimated more than 50 million americans will watch tonight. our chief political corespondent jan crawford is traveling with the romney campaign. jan, same question to you: what does the governor have to do? >> reporter: scott, romney had one final meeting with his advisors an
don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. he now says he's going to replace obama care. at some point i think the american people have to ask themselves, is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they are too good? is it because somehow middle class families are going to benefit too much from them? >> let me bring in nick khristoff. let me read one of your many tweets last night, nick. obama is such a gifted speaker but tonight he seemed passive, distracted and defensive. what happened? >> i mean n a word, he blew it. it is not the same as blowing a campaign. i think part of it was expectations and romney did much better than expectations. but beyond that, he let romney get away with accusing him of being the one who is undecided on big banks, on being the one who would let people lose their health insurance, of being the one who didn't care about the little guy. and essentially obama didn't push back. he didn't whack him. i think that's going to have to change in future debates. >> one of the questions going into this was how aggres
. >> isn't it telling last night that president obama himself did not bring up bain capital. isn't it telling that president obama himself did not accuse governor romney of causing women to die from cancer because of things that happened at companies he ran? isn't it telling that president obama didn't make much of this 47% gaffe a week ago. >> sir, why didn't the president bring up any of those things? were you watching this wondering that yourself? >> of course. i was watching it and some of the comments that i hear today make me think people were looking for entertainment instead of substance and facts. i was looking for substance and facts. i saw a president who was very calm, cool and collected. he was looking out for the interest of seniors here in the country as it related to medicare and he was somebody concerned, in my opinion, about the middle class about doing what's right in terms of going forward in terms of diversifying our resources. i know people say this morning that maybe romney was attacking and energetic and all of that sort of thing, but what i saw in the pre
not to say go into the ravine while meanwhile the enemy is sitting on the planks. that is why obama is telling me what he is going to do, and i have seen what he is going to do. i want a guy that will go after the guy who came after us. 9/11 said a lot. >> thank you, kevin. now we go to steve in the debate hall. >> leon emerson and samantha shepherd both here inside the hall. many people watching this at home, but you are in the venue. what is your take away? >> i thought it was an incredible experience. once in a lifetime for me. we travelled from california just to be here. it was an incredible civics lesson to see them face to fac that was really an amazing opportunity. >> i agree with their. once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be able to be in the arena tonight to see the two candidates. >> there are some monitors behind you. were you watching the candidates or splitting your eye contact between the monitors and what was on stage? >> i was fortunate to see both candidates. >> what about the body language? >> i thought they were both composed. i think they were both very well rehea
and lighting. president obama leads republican challenger mitt romney by three percentage points in national polls. romney is within striking distance. both men have been preparing for weeks. president obama's advisers have been telling him not to be professorial. do not speak for too long. for mitt romney, they're saying do not commit a gaffe. try to stay on message. that is why he has practiced. >> mitt romney arrived in denver early, visiting a mexican fast- food restaurant. this and a 7% of hispanic voters in the u.s. support obama. the president spent three days preparing in nevada where he took time off to visit the hoover dam before leaving for denver. >> the trial over the former butler for the pope went into its third day today. >> in a briefing, the spokesman said police describe how they found documents at department. police say the pope had marked some of them to be destroyed. a tunnel is expected to return its critic on saturday -- panel is expected to return its verdict on saturday. >> the country has sought to bonds that are due to mature for longer-term debt. that reduces the
. president should have driven the point home. mitt romney kept telling the lie that president obama is about a federal takeover of healthcare. >> romney: telling a patient and a doctor who kind of treatment they can have. that's the wrong way to go. the private market and individual responsibility always work best. >> bill: right to the very, very end, jim lehrer, we'll get into jim lehrer later by the way. he was a disaster. total disaster. but jim lehrer right toward the end asked them about how they could get rid of this gridlock in washington, d.c. and whether -- how they could bring both parties together. mitt romney says oh, here's what i'll do. >> romney: as president i'll sit down -- the day after i get elected, i'll sit down with the democratic leaders as well as republican leaders as we did in my state we met every monday for a couple of hours and talked about the issues and the challenges in our state in that case. we have to work on a collaborative basis. >> bill: president obama says -- this is as close
. >> es seemed analyst that you are. can you tell me what barack obama's future vision is if he is re-elected? can you tell me from last night's debate what he is going to do? does anybody know? >> i actually thought that was the worst part of the debate. we have 23 million people unemployed, stop looking for work. what does he want to do? he wants to hire 100,000 teachers? first of all do we even know if we need 100,000 teachers? it's puny. it isn't big thinking. he wants to raise taxes. even good kinseyans know that's not the way. it's all small ball stuff that. worked for bill clinton because bill clinton had a raring economy so he could worry about school uniforms and talk about small stuff. where is i the president's big plan? >> where's mitt romney's small plan? >> you heard it last night. he has an entitlement reform plan, tax plan, corporate tax plan, energy plan, trade plan. the president doesn't. and i think it really showed. he imagined he was going to get through this race simply by disqualifying romney. they almost did it during the summer. they came this close. >> hold o
plan, obama said look, this is time and time again here is mitt romney saying he's going to do all these things and he won't tell you what his secret plans are. why is he keeping them a secret? is it because they're so good for the middle class. if they really were great tax plans that weren't going to hit the middle class, he could say how it's not going to hurt the middle class. he could say how he's going to regulate wall street and deal with pre-existing conditions. you're seeing fact checkers today and you'll see the obama campaign hammering things home like the preconditioned issue where romney doesn't have anything dealing with people who have cancer and are uninsurable today. the overall romney campaign is saying well, you know, we'll figure out a way for the states to deal with that issue. that's not necessarily a solution today for millions of people who have very serious health problems. that's going to be something that obama didn't really attack yesterday. i think you're going to see a much more vigorous obama in the future. >> in the second and third debate? >> his pe
had about 14 of 15. and the obama folks were there, axelrod and cover, messina. they were not telling a good story. they were saying that this doesn't -- this is not definitive. basically it's theatrics. some of this and talking points you heard today. the question is, what it means long-term. clearly the president has set the bar, the expectation is pretty low for debate. lou: and one could be forgiven for thinking that it was, perhaps, i wrote a dope strategy. over a longer time than most people would have expected. but given that, the way in which the left has responded your, i mean, they have been vicious to their own, their leader. this is supposed to be the great one. and he is being treated today, i think by the left in many cases far worse than he has been treated by anyone on the right. >> you're right. ms in b.c., it was quite something to watch some of that coverage. and today congressman rangel said that the president just looked bored, like he did not want to be present. you have people out there saying that. it's obviously not helpful to the campaign. the president tried
came up with a plan to beat barack obama and one of the centerpieces of it was they would tell the country that obama had deceived americans by painting himself as a metrosexual black abe lincoln. the plan was junked. i have been baffled -- >> because it's a compliment. >> what does it mean? any idea? >> i have no idea even where to begin with that one but if someone called me a metrosexual white abraham lincoln i would be happy to take that one on. he was one of the best writers who ever occupied the white house. he was a man of principle, and he navigated very complex forces in society at that time. slavery, the fate of the union, the industrialization of the country, and all of that is the background in "the lincoln conspiracy," and he haunts the pages of the book in that regard. >> tim, quickly, totally different subject but you're also a business writer. what are you expecting from the big jobs number tomorrow? >> i don't even get into the crystal ball. i can't say that on this program, can i? >> no, you can't. >> a name joke. >> i'm sorry, that must happen a lot. i have n
know what allowed him to tell an absolute litany of lies? that was president obama. of course he said a lot of outrageous and untrue things. in the second paragraph of my column i said this line where he went after obama and said, you know, when i'm not telling -- when my boys aren't telling the truth to me, what obama was saying was accurate. in this case i think it's less -- i mean, it certainly is the right thing to point out that he was saying things that were not true. i don't understand why that's being left to the fact checkers, to you, to me, to others. why wasn't president obama out there getting in his face right then and there and saying it? that's why he was allowing this. he was just sort of taking the beating. of course he's going to get out there and say things that are false. why was he being allowed to say that? >> marina teresa, do you think there was a strategy behind the president's reluctance to be too assertive with mitt romney? as dana is suggesting? >> i think it's part of an overall strategy. he doesn't want to come in and get down in the weeds just yet and st
not true, obama needed to tell the people. i did not hear that. i am is still undecided. i would like to hear more of obama refuting, if he can, what romney is saying. i would like to hear more of mitt romney's plan that if obama is not telling the truth about your plans, we need to hear where his plans are going to take us and how he is going to actually make them work. host: that was virginia from florida. david is a mitt romney supporter in arlington, virginia. what did you think about the debate? caller: i am a reluctant romney supporter because of the abomination of the last four years. i am in arlington virginia and i have to tell other callers, they should come to arlington and see the ridiculousness that has become our central government across the river. there is a real estate bubble going on in arlington, va. that is sucking all of your tax dollars across the country. it is all flowing into washington, d.c., and creating a real estate boom here and mounds of jobs while the rest of the country suffers. when i go to my in-laws or my family members elsewhere in the country, it
. >> the obama camp had no problem slamming hillary clinton in the 2008 primary, top democrats privately tell me that part of mr. obama's strategy was hold back on the attack because it might look beneath the dig dignity of the office. >> no subject was more hotly contested last night than tax policy. jim angle takes a look at the fact and the fiction behind the claims. >> the two candidates jousted over taxes throughout the debate, romney wants to reduce tax rates by 20% across the board. but says he would keep a definite sit neutral by trimming some of the $1.2 trillion a year in tax deductions. president obama argues there aren't enough deductions that affect only the rich, so romney would have to hit the middle class. >> the only way to meet governor romney's pledge of not reducing the deficit or not adding to the deficit is by burdening middle class families, the average middle class family with children would pay $2,000 more. >> others have estimated the total value of the tax cuts would be some $5 trillion over ten years. governor romney says he will keep it deficit neutral and pledges th
speech. >> it's nerve-wracking, and i'll tell you one thing. obamas are not thinking about their anniversary right now. i can guarantee you that. last thing on their mind. >> that's why we do this primitive thing. we put them in the arena and make them go at each other this is a contest that could be a thousand years old. this is the land of opportunity. this is what's next. that's why reagan was successful, fdr was successful. we don't want a leader who doesn't know where we are all going. >> absolutely. >> obamas went 2 1/2 hours, and it was a senate race. >> or more. >> no commercial breaks. debate is an hour and a half. our coverage continues afterward. let's go to candy in the debate hall. wolf, to you. >> anderson, thanks very much. i want to remind our viewers, at the bottom of the screen, squiggly lines, we have a focus group of undecided colorado voters, they are watching, what they like in the debate, don't like in the debate. a lot of squiggly lines, you will see how they are reacting. the only place you will see that kind of undecided voter react. we're standing
mitt romney's victory over president obama, let me tell you how i watched. i watched the debate within the area of my world. i watched it towards making you some money. tweeting every potential stock idea triggered by either gentleman. ♪ how can you try to make money from the debate? let me parse it for you. show you how it's done. going over the actual statements by each candidate translating them into cramerican. let me tell you, there were tons of cramericans on twitter. if you tweeted me about the debate, keep an idea on the ticker below. you may see your tweet. romney went right into a call from north american energy self-sufficiently, coal as an endangered species under obama. listen. >> i like coal. i want to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> lots of bozos went in and bought the coal stocks. all the coal stocks on. this wrong take away, people! coal's hostage to chinese demand more than u.s. use. that's not the case for the users of coal. the users, people. and that's why i said romney'
obama and mitt romney. the president went on the attack after what's been perceived as a lackluster debate performance. and the president accused governor romney of not telling americans the truth about what president obama calls romney's $5 trillion tax plan. darren gersh, tonight, looks at what the real impact of the romney tax plan could be on the american economy. >> reporter: here's where the president gets that $5 trillion number he used again today. governor romney's plan to cut tax rates by 20% would add up to about $5 trillion over ten years, assuming no other changes. but governor romney is planning to make other changes by eliminating tax deductions worth about the same amount. but the president is accurate when he says governor romney is making many promises in his tax plan. romney says upper-income people will not get a net tax cut; middle-income people will not see their taxes go up; incentives for savings and investment won't be touched; the estate tax and alternative minimum tax will be eliminated-- all this while cutting tax rates and not changing the amount of mone
he will get a bump in the polls. some obama allies telling me that the president last night seemed tired and bored. >> president obama and governor romney. [ applause ] >> reporter: it was a sweet start for the president, for what would end up something of a bitter pill. >> i just want to wish, sweetie, you, happy anniversary. and let you know, a year from now, we won't be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine. here with me. so i -- congratulations. >> reporter: and with that, former governor mitt romney began an aggressive prosecution of the last four years. invoking vice president biden's own word for what has happened to the middle class. >> under the president's policies, middle-income americans are being buried. they're being crushed. >> reporter: and attacking the president's health care bill. >> i don't know how he could come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, and spend his energy and passion fighting for obama care, instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> reporter: the ob
campaign and supposed to tell you he won and barack obama lost. i'm not saying they asked me to. it's true this, is no way you can watch tonight and not reach that conclusion. but i don't want to approach this as an athletic competition. the president and his rhetoric have never been exposed like like tonight. the president run out of basically myths to put out there and run out of excuses. they were debating about the tax increase. the president saying only 3% of taxpayers mitt romney said yeah but it happens to be where the jobs are. the president said can we change the subject? he said let's talk about something else. here is what is apparent. the president, you can see in body language, so uncomfortable talking about the economy, about debt and taxes. he doesn't understand it. i think for -- he just doesn't understand how jobs are created. >> sean: i tweeted that out tonight. he doesn't understand economics 101. >> and the only thing exposed tonight that you stand up and say yes, someone is doing thchl the president's attacks against republicans is built on a bunch of myths. this whole
the obama folks and we'll see where it goes from here. >> and you'll be able to tell by who breaks a sweat behind you. >> that is right. and that is it for us here live in denver. and first, it's just the first. there are many more still to come. >> vice presidential debate coming up thursday, thanks for watching. >> welcome to hannity. we're live in we'll be joined by rob portman helping to prepare governor romney for the debate will join us tonight. senator marco rubio will be here. one of the things initial thoughts is that you saw the president in a way you've never seen him before. never before hammered this way on a sustained basis. this went on throughout the night. mitt romney energized and was staring at him the whole time, meaning the president. the president would look down, and looking to bail him out in this debate. we've never seen this before in president obama. there is a lot of ground to cover tonight of we'll check in with our focus group. we're live with a lot of voters out there. frank, interested in their reaction tonight. >> and there is in denver that voted accuratel
obama care tells insurance companies, you have to insure everybody, even if they have a pre-existing condition. romney has said and his spoexpeopspoe spokespeople are said, we want insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions if -- and this is a huge if -- if they have had continuous care in the past. but they haven't defined what they mean by that. so let's say you get laid off of your job and you don't have insurance for a period of time, because you don't have a job and you can't afford to buy it on your own. well, that's a gap. so does that mean that you won't be able to get insurance if you have a pre-existing condition? we don't know. under obama care, it's a sure thing. under romney, there are some question marks there. >> and also crucial, mitt romney did not say how he would pay for this pre-existing coverage for people. some of the specifics he did not lay out last night. elizabeth cohen, thanks very much. some really interesting answers to the questions on health care. good to see you this morning. >> thanks. >>> and 11 minutes after the hour.
tell you this. one lesson that president obama and his campaign believe they've taken from president bush in 2004 is don't take this first debate lightly. that's why they prepared so much. and don't assume he's just going to sit back and, quote, sit on his lead. he's going to be a little more aggressive tonight than maybe people realize. as for mitt romney, don't be surprised if he tries to get libya in the conversation. yes, it's an economy debate, but if he doesn't, aides tell me he's got a big libya foreign policy speech that he'd like to do in the next couple of dies, brian. >> chuck todd part of our team there. brings us to this next item. andrea mitchell is another part of our political team in denver. she'll be fact checking the debate for us during our coverage later tonight. but, andrea, because of breaking news on two fronts, libya and syria, tonight we come to you in your capacity as chief foreign affairs correspondent. what do you know on both? >> reporter: well, the president was briefed on this latest incident. today syria, according to the u.s. and nato, attacked turke
could tell how it had been decided that obama was not doing well and i don't think he did well. i'm not trying to make a country it. , but these things can blow up in a hurry but it also burned out and everywhere people are ready to go on to the next story. >> the first debate decided by twitter, a record thank you. some other news from around the world. a landslide in china as a primary school, carrying 18 people and killing nine. the government has located a hundred residents from the village where a glance at happens. rescuers are still working to free those trapped under the mud and rubble. spanish police arrested a 21- year-old man on suspicion of plotting to bomb the university. police officers say they made the rest after the suspect received more than 140 kilograms a bomb making materials. google and a number of u.s. publishers have agreed on a settlement and legal battle over copyright. google's library project seeks to digitize books and make them available to anyone, but publishers say that violates copyright. both parties agree publishers can remove their books from th
company, i tell you, it's miserable right now. if obama thinks for a minute we're not going to find ways around the health care bill, he's crazy. it's going to cost -- neil: but you answered something interesting. we can always play with numbers here. i wish i could do that on my grade point average in college, i couldn't. it was what it was. that's history. one thing that's interesting that romney tried to do is you're talking about how very few small businesses, mr. president, are affected by your coming hike and in the upper rate, but he said they doing the for close to -- do account for close to half of the employees hired by small businesses. i'm paraphrasing it. look, did you get a sense that he was deliberately going after the president on each and every item that he found offensive in a prosecuting fashion? some looked at that saying now you're losing me so vang the president. what -- so advantage the president. what do you say? >> i think the president just doesn't get it, frankly, and any time we can challenge his premise, we ought to do it. i think romney did it very well. pre
'll tell you something, i am the only person as my pal dana has said, who thinks obama did well. so i know -- >> obama needs to step up his game. don't apologize for him. he's the president of the united states. he deserves to do better than that. >> i don't really believe he -- you really believe obama did well is this. >> yeah, i do. >> let's move on. >> moving on. you probably wondering what's eric bolling's favorite moment was? that is coming up in the next block. we'll have more moments from the debate. and later, reaction from president obama himself, plus you're not going to believe what the president wanted to do with osama bin laden if he was captured alive. we're going to tell you. that's next. stay with us. ♪ . >> back now with more of our favorite moments from last night's debate. we've got to everybody's except eric. should we look at yours first. >> you picked great shots, i wanted to go deeper. i heard something at the very end of the debate when they were making their final closing remarks. listen to president obama. he stumbles, but this really is a peek inside this man'
this afternoon. [ laughter ] i must tell you. first of all, i think twitter and the whole blogosphere thing made that the first presidential debate scored minute by minute and it drove the consensus that obama was crushed. obama was devastated. you know what? this is such -- >> it wasn't -- >> you could see it in the spin room in denver. >> stop it. within seconds after the debate, it was around the networks. >> you know what? they were crying. >> let me tell you something. >> they were having melt downs. >> let me tell you two quick things. one is everybody in there was twittering and -- >> now you're hanging out with bob twittering. >> no, no. tweet, whatever. the second thing to say is it wasn't so much the right, and there were people on the romney side trying to push it. it was the left. it was the left that went crazy on obama! they wanted a grudge match, a cage match. they wanted -- >> that's why even the obama campaign thinks they lost. >> yeah, that's the problem. >> when they come out tend with the spinners, it was all romney people. >> who knew that preparation with joy bearrest would
better. he wasn't as specific as obama, but he set out to attack obama more. >> a political science professor from san jose state telling us, she thinks romney will get a nice bump in the polls from that debate. she adds whether that bumps come in the all-important swing states where the race is still very tight that, remains to be seen. >>> here's a question, historically how much impact do presidential debates have on an election when it's all said and done? we asked that question to a professor of political science at santa clara university. >> that's a good question. in 2004, john kerry won the first debate against president bush. and in 1984, reagan stumbled in the first debate against mondale and it didn't seem to hurt them very much. it will be interesting to see as the polls come out in the next week whether or not romney gets a bumping and whether or not it's a lasting bump. there's only a month left before the election and he really needs to get some momentum going. he's been behind obama for the first part of the race. it will be interesting to see if the debate really pu
is crooked. thanks for telling me. i know how obama debated in 08. how much is he like that in 2012. three hours, jam packed. don't go away. ♪ growing up in a family that salutes the american flag every day fills up with national pride. i am grateful for the opportunity to serve. that's why i am proud to be an american. ♪ >> good morning, it is 7 minutes before the hour. 15 artist vying for a spot in the rock-n-roll hall of fame. ♪ ♪ going to put them down. >> is that every man's favorite band. that is the canadian band rush among the first time nominees. they are with donna somer. and the winner will be announced this year and inducted in april. if you are a presidential cand date doesn't win the election you can get a free ticket to leave the country and go down to the caribbean. all you need to do is enter jetblue's election contest. they are giving over 1,000 round trip flights. >> last night president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head in denver. what did you think of the last night's debate. >> by far the best part was the question about the role of the federal governmen
% for obama. i mean you can't win a republican can't win, i don't have to tell you this as a strategist with anything south of 40%. i think mitt romney was 20% -- >> i've been hollering this for three years on the republican party about latinos and there's no doubt romney is moving just like obama had to move issues in his campai. romney's been late to it but i'm for doing it big like he did tonight and more of it. >> rose: i want to get john back in but katty go ahead. >> this is giving obama the benefit of the doubt about it of conversation. the obama campaign -- >> rose: that was heilemann's definition. >> the very fact that they spent half an hour talking about taxes where they feel they do have an advantage with segments of the electorate that we've been talking about. this is one of the most fundamental differences between the two men. mitt romney clely tonight although he said he wasn't going to have a $5 trillion tax cut still believes if you give people tax cuts even the w ealthest that's how you stimulate oak growth. president obama did very good in that segment refuting tha
dickerson tell me about the medicare argument and obama says he prefers now and like the sound of obamacare. who won that particular argument about obamacare and what it does and whatever romney's proposing and what that will do, including what ryan says about vouchers. >> well, the whole healthcare debate was a pretty good proxy for the larger debate. romney had his five points against the president. he talked about these panels which there's a panel called death panels. he talked about the $716 billion cut. the president's response was he kind of backed into his response figuring he would explain it and everybody would be smart enough to see the absurdity of mitt romney but he was not clear and on point. particularly on this voucher question, and what romney would propose with paul ryan to do to medicare. i mean, this is where i heard from a couple republicans well now we're on to medicare and this is where the president will just clobber him because it's an issue that's very sensitive and it's one in which mitt romney basically if we get back to this question in secrecy, romney's answer
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